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	<title>StraightChuter.com - Backcountry Skiing &#38; Beyond &#187; skins</title>
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		<title>Glue Renew Guru</title>
		<link>http://straightchuter.com/2010/01/glue-renew-guru/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love the idea of regluing skins, not just because it is all eco earth friendly and vegan approved, but because a pair of moderately worn nylon skins have such a nice feel to them &#8211; they glide, climb and fold-up like butter.  With this in mind, I stripped the old glue off of a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the idea of regluing skins, not just because it is all eco earth friendly and vegan approved, but because a pair of moderately worn nylon skins have such a nice feel to them &#8211; they glide, climb and fold-up like butter.  With this in mind, I stripped the old glue off of a pair of skins last year and carefully documented my first outing with <a href="http://www.blackdiamondequipment.com/en-us/shop/ski/skins/glue-renew-transfer" target="_blank">Black Diamond Glue Renew</a> strips in eager anticipation of a KILLER BLOG POSTING.  Yeah, well, it turned out like crap as I have the patience of a two year old and once again forgot to read the instructions until after I finished the job.<span id="more-3800"></span></p>
<div id="attachment_3801" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 510px"><a href="http://straightchuter.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/crappy_skins.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-3801" title="crappy_skins" src="http://straightchuter.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/crappy_skins.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="350" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">This is how my glue job turned out because I yam sofa king we ta did.  Sad.</p></div>
<p>But, my faith in Glue Renew (strips of skin glue that you iron on) was renewed over the weekend when I saw the factory-perfect job that Ron Smith was able to do.  Check this out:</p>
<div id="attachment_3802" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 510px"><a href="http://straightchuter.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/ron_reglue-2.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-3802" title="ron_reglue-2" src="http://straightchuter.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/ron_reglue-2.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="350" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Now we&#39;re talking!  Ron shows off his glue job.</p></div>
<p>Aside from reading the instructions and being patient, Ron had some excellent little tricks of the reglue trade.</p>
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<li>Take your skins to a Dry Cleaner and have them remove the old glue for five-ish dollars.  This is a brilliant trick and the skins come out looking brand new and apparently unharmed.</li>
<li>Before applying the Glue Renew, lay down a coat of <a href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;amp;mi=10060&amp;amp;pw=10077&amp;amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.backcountry.com%2Foutdoorgear%2FBlack-Diamond-Ascension-Gold-Label-Skin-Glue-4oz-can%2FBLD0004M.html" target="_blank">Gold Label</a> adhesive using a scraper to get a nice, thin, even coat.  This soaks into the backing and helps the Glue Renew adhere.</li>
<li>Ron got the Glue Renew cold, then cut it into strips so that he could put a strip down each side of the skin and leave the center blank (except for the Gold Label).  This eliminates the need for a piece of nylon cloth and also allows you to get two complete skin reglues out of one set of Glue Renews.</li>
<li>Ignore the recommended heating temperatures and keep the iron &#8220;just ahead of the bubbling point&#8221; which is hotter than it might seem.</li>
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<p>I can&#8217;t wait to try it again, or maybe I&#8217;ll see if Ron wants to do a another pair while I watch.<br />
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		<title>Power Assisted Skin Ripping</title>
		<link>http://straightchuter.com/2009/12/power-assisted-skin-ripping/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 12:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Super sticky skin glue can be a mixed blessing &#8211; it is great for adhering to your bases, but can nearly impossible to pull apart.  The little center strip of non-glued material definitely helps with this as do the nylon mesh skin savers, although I personally just throw the mesh in the trash right after [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Super sticky skin glue can be a mixed blessing &#8211; it is great for adhering to your bases, but can nearly impossible to pull apart.  The little center strip of non-glued material definitely helps with this as do the nylon mesh skin savers, although I personally just throw the mesh in the trash right after I open the box and never use it.</p>
<p>Separating your skins has gotten even tougher as many of them are getting so wide nowadays.  My usual technique for overly sticky skins was to press them onto our dog-hair infested carpet a few times, which took some of the initial tack off, but last spring I saw an even better technique from Heather Paul Featherman.  Having nearly separated my sternum many times by using the brute force approach, I loved the brains vs. brawn simplicity of this.  As Heather said &#8220;Why not use the strongest muscles in your body?&#8221;<span id="more-3684"></span></p>
<div id="attachment_3686" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 360px"><img class="size-full wp-image-3686" title="skin_strip-1" src="http://straightchuter.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/skin_strip-1.jpg" alt="Starting with your skins stuck together, grab the tops as normal..." width="350" height="500" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Starting with your skins stuck together, grab the tops as normal...</p></div>
<div id="attachment_3687" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 360px"><img class="size-full wp-image-3687" title="skin_strip-2" src="http://straightchuter.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/skin_strip-2.jpg" alt="... place the skins between your legs and wrap them over your thighs..." width="350" height="500" /><p class="wp-caption-text">... place the skins between your legs and wrap them over your thighs...</p></div>
<div id="attachment_3685" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 360px"><img class="size-full wp-image-3685" title="skin_strip-3" src="http://straightchuter.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/skin_strip-3.jpg" alt="... then use your leg muscles to pull them apart in a series of 2-3 segments." width="350" height="500" /><p class="wp-caption-text">... then use your leg muscles to pull them apart in a series of 2-3 segments.</p></div>
<p>It works great and is so embarrassingly simple I&#8217;m amazed I&#8217;d never seen it or thought of it before.  Thanks Heather.</p>
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		<title>Choosing Climbing Skins</title>
		<link>http://straightchuter.com/2009/10/choosing-climbing-skins/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are many variations on the skin theme available nowadays &#8211; nylon, mohair, mixed, hybrids, domestic, European, tip catchers, tail rippers, no tails and everything in between.  I&#8217;m partial and opinionated about what I like for the Wasatch, but am the first to admit that the best skin for the job is probably whatever the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many variations on the skin theme available nowadays &#8211; nylon, mohair, mixed, hybrids, domestic, European, tip catchers, tail rippers, no tails and everything in between.  I&#8217;m partial and opinionated about what I like for the Wasatch, but am the first to admit that the best skin for the job is probably whatever the locals use in a given area.  First off, the locals are bound to know their snowpack and what skins work best on it, and secondly, their skin tracks are going to reflect that.  When Europeans bring narrow mohair skins to the Wasatch with no tip or tail loop, they inevitably get frustrated with the steep skin tracks and then the cold, dry air causes their glue to fail and their skins fall off.  Conversely, bringing a pair of burly nylon skins to Europe would be like walking around with sandpaper on your skis as the snow pack and skin track favor the gliding properties of mohair.<span id="more-3532"></span></p>
<div id="attachment_3533" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 510px"><img class="size-full wp-image-3533" title="nylon_skin" src="http://straightchuter.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/nylon_skin.jpg" alt="Deep, dry, fine grained snow with steepish skin tracks favor nylon skins." width="500" height="350" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Deep, dry, fine grained snow with steepish skin tracks favor nylon skins.</p></div>
<p>That said, it is possible to make almost any skin work in almost any condition.  The reason I like nylon skins with a tip &amp; tail kit for the Wasatch is that we often have fine grained, dry snow which the courser nylon material tends to bite well in.  We also don&#8217;t have very long approaches compared to other places and they tend to be steep, so glide (like you get with mohair) isn&#8217;t a big issue.</p>
<div id="attachment_3534" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 510px"><img class="size-full wp-image-3534" title="mohair_skin" src="http://straightchuter.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/mohair_skin.jpg" alt="For cruising on sticky snow with lower angle tracks, mohair can't be beat." width="500" height="350" /><p class="wp-caption-text">For cruising on sticky snow with lower angle tracks, mohair can&#39;t be beat.</p></div>
<p>On the mohair/nylon hybrids, I&#8217;ve tried two different brands of them and while they are billed as &#8220;the best of both worlds&#8221; I personally thought they were the worst of both worlds.  They don&#8217;t climb very well compared to nylons or glide well compared to mohair, which is frustrating.  Personally, I&#8217;d rather use a skin which is really good at one thing or another (like climbing or gliding) rather than one that merely doesn&#8217;t suck too much in most conditions.</p>
<p>An excellent little technical skin primer can be found <a href="https://www.climbingskinsdirect.com/SuperTechData.html" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>Skin Set Up &#8211; Part Two</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 12:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now that the edges have been trimmed back and the nose has been set, I like to tweak my tails a bit (the tails of the skins that is). Although I designed the BD ClipFix and used that system for years, I&#8217;ve now gravitated towards the STS system (shown below).  I liked the ClipFix, but [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that the edges have been trimmed back and the nose has been set, I like to tweak my tails a bit (the tails of the skins that is).</p>
<p>Although I designed the <a href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&amp;mi=10060&amp;pw=10077&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.backcountry.com%2Fstore%2FBLD0786%2FBlack-Diamond-Ascension-Nylon-Clipfix-Skins.html">BD ClipFix </a>and used that system for years, I&#8217;ve now gravitated towards the STS system (shown below).  I liked the ClipFix, but as <a href="http://www.proguiding.com/">Martin Volken </a>said about it, &#8220;It&#8217;s an expert system.&#8221; meaning if you spent the time to get it perfectly dialed, it worked great, but if not, they&#8217;d fall off. I didn&#8217;t mind getting mine dialed in, but that often meant widening the tail slot, which is/was kind of a pain.  The STS system is not only totally bomber, but it fits most of the standard issue tail notches.  If you don&#8217;t have a notch, most skis can stand one being filed/cut in and it makes a huge difference in keeping your skins on.</p>
<p><a href="http://straightchuter.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/tail_detail.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1784" style="border: black 1px solid;" title="tail_detail" src="http://straightchuter.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/tail_detail-500x375.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="375" /></a></p>
<p>I use a pair of Channel Lock pliers to crimp the camming cleat down to a lower profile (less chance of it getting hung up on things) and then thread the tail back through the tip, as shown above.  Tucking the tail up makes for cleaner, faster uphill kick-turns where you are less likely to step on your tail dingle.  Plus I hate having those things flapping around.</p>
<p>As a final skin set-up step, I keep the skins attached to the appropriate ski with a Voile strap so I never grab the wrong skins, or worse yet, forget them, when heading out the door for a big powder day.</p>
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		<title>Skin Set Up &#8211; Part One</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m the first to admit that I&#8217;m anal-retentive when it comes to setting up my skins.  Why? Because spending an hour or so in the beginning getting your skins just right means you never have to fool with them again and that they seldom fall off or fail in the field.  I can&#8217;t remember the last [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m the first to admit that I&#8217;m anal-retentive when it comes to setting up my skins.  Why? Because spending an hour or so in the beginning getting your skins just right means you never have to fool with them again and that they seldom fall off or fail in the field.  I can&#8217;t remember the last time I had a skin failure.  Once skins are properly trimmed and adjusted, they can take all sorts of abuse, such as walking across rocks, asphalt and logs.</p>
<p>One of the most important parts of trimming out a pair of skins is to hold them back about 3/16&#8243; from the edges.  Many people just trim them &#8220;neat&#8221; to the edges (as much out of laziness as anything), but that makes it much harder to get the skins on the ski and you lose your sharp edge when you need it on firm snow.  The tiny bit of extra grip you&#8217;ll get by going wall-to-wall is irrelevant compared to the problems it causes.</p>
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<dt class="wp-caption-dt"><a href="http://straightchuter.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/edge_trim.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1773" style="border: black 1px solid;" title="edge_trim" src="http://straightchuter.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/edge_trim-500x375.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="375" /></a></dt>
<dd class="wp-caption-dd">To trim the edge back, first trim it &#8220;neat&#8221; to the edges, then move the skin over so about 3/16&#8243; of an inch is hanging over, trim it off, then do the other side.</dd>
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<dt class="wp-caption-dt"><a href="http://straightchuter.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/full_skin.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1779" style="border: black 1px solid;" title="New Zealand 2006" src="http://straightchuter.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/full_skin.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="350" /></a></dt>
<dd class="wp-caption-dd">An expert skier/skinner with full-width skins being humbled into a self arrest on an icy slope as he couldn&#8217;t sink an edge in. I&#8217;m glad you were okay Steve. ;)</dd>
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<p>On the tip, if I think there is any chance I might adjust the length of the skin, I use a rounded end.  This gives a bit more adhesive-to-adhesive contact, plus it allows the sides of the skin to grip a bit more, which helps to keep snow from packing in there (the beginning of the end).  As most of my skis have dedicated skins, I cut the tip off short and sew it tight with some beefy thread.  This ensures that the tip loop never comes off, gives a nice smooth contact profile to the skin and saves a bit of weight &amp; bulk.</p>
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<dt class="wp-caption-dt"><a href="http://straightchuter.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/nose_trim.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1774" style="border: black 1px solid;" title="nose_trim" src="http://straightchuter.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/nose_trim-500x375.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="375" /></a></dt>
<dd class="wp-caption-dd">On skins which are dedicated to a certain pair of skis, I cut the nose short, then stitch it on as shown on the left. On skins that may change skis, I trim the nose with a half circle (as shown on the right).</dd>
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