Comments on: Ditch the Plastic Shovel

By: Bob

Bob — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:52:09 +0000

Andrew, check out this .pdf:
http://www.backcountryaccess.com/english/research/documents/EdgerlyAtkinsISSW06.pdf

By: Terry

Terry — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:05:14 +0000

There were 3 total in the party, the splitboarder who was buried and 2 skiers who dug him out. Mt. Proctor is just north of Fernie, B.C. – you can see it from town. The CAC report link doesn’t seem to work anymore, but I saved it at the time in my email:

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Avalanche Involvement Report
Canadian Avalanche Centre

DATE, TIME AND LOCATION
Date/Time: 2007-01-07 02:30
Description: Cold Feet Bowl, N. Ridge Mt. Proctor
Coordinates: 945 395 (UTM-7 NAD1983)
Mtn Range: Rocky Mountains Province: BC

GROUP INFORMATION
Type: Family/Friends Activity: Backcountry Skiing
Size: 3

AVALANCHE INFORMATION
Number: 1 Size: Size class 2 Type: Slab avalanche
Trigger: Sa (Part)
Dimension: 200m wide; ran for 250m; average slab depth of 150cm.
Failure Pl.: Old – Bed surface: CR (2007-12-06)
Starting Zone: Location: Treeline at approx. 1820m.
Character: E; 27 degrees; ~; Sparse Forest.
Comment: We skied a variation of the same slope the previous day. Snow felt good, No sign of cracking, sloughing or settlements. Overnight cool conditions and clear skies helped the level of confidence. During the run we stayed in the trees, safer terrain then previous day. Released a 1.5 mid slope while skiing the edge of the trees. Regrouped and came up with a plan for the remainder of the trees. Nearing the end of the trees. one snowboarder stopped below a large tree. 2 skiers at safe places above. large settlement was observed and slabbed from 60m of trees above. Resulted in 2m burial, 300m ride and 10-15m dig out. 5 min after airway was exposed the snowboarder regained consciousness and toured back to parked snowmobile.

INVOLVEMENT INFORMATION
Number of people involved: 1 completely buried.
Number of people injured: None.
Property damage: one glove was lost – Estimated value: $120.

WEATHER AND SNOWPACK INFORMATION
Weather: Partly cloudy, -10 at ridgtop
Snowpack: 180-200cm at ridge top (7500) Mod shear 60cm deep within storm snow on opposite aspect as skied, not visible on aspect skied. Dec 6 ice crust down 150, no results within tests.

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS

ATTACHMENTS

Date and Time of Report: 2008-01-07 18:39

By: Andrew

Andrew — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:06:05 +0000

WOW! That was a burly burial! Thanks for posting the link. Getting someone out alive in two meters of deep, heavy snow is a perfect rescue.

I noticed he said he had ding marks in his helmet from probing and it appears the rescuers used a type of strategic shoveling technique where they came in from the downhill side. It might even change my mind about probes. :)

I wonder how many people dug him out? There must have been a few if one of them had enough time to take photos.

By: Terry

Terry — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:52:40 +0000

PS after seeing the photos from this link
http://www.biglines.com/msgbrd/viewtopic.php?t=13987
last year, I bought a shovel with a larger blade, aluminum of course. The size of the hole these guys had to dig to excavate their buddy brought home just how big the job might be.

By: Terry

Terry — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:40:01 +0000

Thanks for posting this, Andrew. Amazing how many skiers are still packing these absolute crap shovels. Not only do they break, they also bounce off ice and don’t penetrate hard snow.

Mitch Weber from ttips had a great piece about dumping plastic a few years back, with links to a variety of cases where plastic shovels have failed:
http://www.telemarktips.com/TeleNews69.html